THE PISCES MOON EMPATH

topic posted Sat, September 22, 2007 - 2:29 PM by  Dream-Keeper...
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I am new, just found this on tribe and glad to meet my borther and sister moon people. I have done much research, spiritual discliplines and visionary experiences to understand my pisces Moon. When I was 11 I realized for the first time when I looked at the moon, that it was a 3 dimensional sphere in the sky. That day changed my life. Before then I thought litterally I was a wild large cat, such as a jaguar and lion. I didn't know 20 years later i would enter the shamans path, but then it made sense.

In my understandings both my study as an astrologer, a shaman and a pisces moon person, we are... "An Empathic Sponge in the Great Ocean of Emotional Energy around Us". This is the best phrase I can come up with, back then and now. In 1987 when I first went on the web I typed in EMPATHIC HEALER. 1 reply came up. "1 !!! " I didn't know where or how I put those two words together but now I know. That within our emotional body is REMEMBERENCE. Not knowledge memory thats rote like the mind, but an Enternal Remembrance system". I asked the guy, are you an empath too? Can you feel everyone's stuff? I was exploring my pisces moon nature then for survival, since my watery moon is in the house of memory, the cancer house. He replied, no, i am trying to create a role playing game. Obviously he was operating off the sub-conscious psyche of Neptune, our ruler as well.

I found that pisces moon has a 'latent' response. Maybe because I have a double water element with mine. Has anyone else focused on their emotional body, or healed it enough to see that something happens but the resonse could be a week later, even if its anger or an emotion and just comes out of the blue. Being an aquarian sun with this combo might have created some distortion of control until i could enter it fuller compared to others who might have a sun in water or earth.

In my long study on my moon, the way i feel and respond, the emotions that are as large as the ocean, there are two levels to the emotional body. The Higher levels of the Pisces Moon and the Lower undeveloped levels or 'karma' still present in the emotional body from previous lives. We get a very feeling moon, because we come here to feel and express it within the beauty of art, music, poetry or anything else that serves its coming forth.

The lower levels I've found are anger, jealousy or any host of personal emotion that don't seem to go away. The higher levels are Astral travel, intution highly sensitive, psychic abilities, seership, third eye opening, prophecy, advanced and regular dreaming communication languages, anything that requires entering this ocean on consciousness in the unified fields.

So i am glad to be among my own here and look forward to reading your posts.

Mary
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    Re: THE PISCES MOON EMPATH

    Tue, September 25, 2007 - 8:41 AM
    Nicely put! I am an Pisces moon aquarius sun aswell. I definitely vibe also with the advent that we are like empathic, emotional, psychic sponges. This is one aspect I always forget. Thank you for reminding me! Yes I feel this strongly. It makes life difficult at times.
    I also agree that there are two levels of emotions. That karmic one doesn't seem to EVER go away lol.
    One last thing, I think.... I definitely agree that we need to show the world what we feel. I believe that our feelings are very important, and to let the world sweep them under the hypothetical mat is such a waste of the beauty that is available. The more we express our intuitions, feelings, beliefs, then the more other people will do the same!
    Peace
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    Wed, September 26, 2007 - 4:23 AM
    Yea I know what you mean about the latent respose, I seem to be indifferent to events when they happen but then a week or so later out of the blue my feelings catch up with me, and I'll have some sort of outburst. Guess I don't get too attached to life events cos I can see "the bigger picture" but at the same time I do feel alot it just takes a long time to realise exactly what it is I'm feeling, and the reason I'm feeling it. (That's me trying to over rationalise as usual). I'm an Aquarian aswell by the way and I have Pisces rising.
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      Thu, September 27, 2007 - 10:47 PM
      Very interesting.

      I HAVE been trying to come to terms with the rather confusing empathic part of myself (which is huge, I think). I'm a Pisces moon and mars and south node plus neptune conjunct ascendant. It's a huge part of my character. I think for years I denied that this was so, but the problem is that at times it's just too hard to separate my emotions from other's. It's especially hard for me to acknowledge because admittedly I am a huge skeptic. I grew up among atheists and even though they themselves have used intuition and the like, they would never admit to it on a spiritual or total level, the way that I think I identify with it.

      The delayed reaction thing is also very interesting. I think this can be explained easily by the 'emotional overload' that happens when there are not healthy ways to purge the pent-up, absorbed dirty-dish-cloth emotional mind of the piscean person. When I get to this stressed, overloaded state, I almost always am so saturated and stressed--bombarded by the world that I just lose it. It takes a lot to bring me down from that level. Many times, I will either get physically ill or I will have an anxiety attack. I've struggled with anxiety, phobias, night terrors and all manner of things since I was little. I now believe that, in large part, this is due to my extreme emotional sensitivity to people and situations in my immediate environment.

      I'm sure you all can relate! Half the battle is recognizing the sensitivity and doing your best to mitigate it, cleanse yourself of it, or otherwise let it flow through you. That's what an astrologer of many years told me. He said that because of the amount of water in my chart, I had to 'let emotions flow through me' because otherwise I'll get all this crap stuck 'in my guts'. Negative emotions are especially damaging, of course. I try to remind myself of this, but it's hard when you just go through life, or should I say 'feel your way' through life and before you know it, you're overwhelmed and don't know how you got there. That's why it's nice to come to forums like this or to simply talk to someone so that you can gain some perspective on it all.


      Whew!

      Your Uncle,

      Hannah

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        Wed, October 24, 2007 - 11:48 AM
        Great points in this thread. I think it may be why things like substance abuse are somewhat more common with those of us with a pisces moon.

        It's like shutting down is not possible (nor really desirable for me) but if the cleansing doesn't happen, it's internalized. It's absorbed as another on the thread said much more eloquently than I am.

        For me, I have a huge amount of virgo in my chart so have found balancing that and the empathy (and of course emotion) to be very difficult. I'm a realist have the time, one of those people who random folks will share with - either verbally or not, but it completely makes sense to me. The key is to not have yourself consumed by the empath or the empathy....because that can be crazy-making imho.

        I didn't grow up in a non-understanding atmosphere so was blessed - or whatever other phrase one would use to describe it - lucky -to have that knowledge of empath being very well nurtured.

        I don't so much as see the delayed reaction at this point, must be the mercurial influences. I'm sure others see it with me though LOL!
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        Wed, October 24, 2007 - 11:50 AM
        " but the problem is that at times it's just too hard to separate my emotions from other's. "


        oh yeah! I'd say that is a common thing with pisces moon especially. There are tools out there to make it less so, without denying who we are though.
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    Wed, October 24, 2007 - 12:05 PM
    The latent response, as well as the healing is something that I've also encountered. For instance, with "emotional burnout" I will lose my voice. Pretty much guaranteed. It's an inward thing, not really depression, but a "enough" sense. With anger, insecurity, feeling dishonesty (on any level), jealousy, or the "lower" level emotions I will develop the tension of the stomach, tension headaches, anxiety etc. The reason I link it with the empathetic stuff is that it's not simply because of stress.

    Thank you Mary for pointing out the two sides of the coin that are very much familiar sounding to me as well as many others on here I'm sure!

    Astral experiences began for me since I was three. I don't consider it unusual or a higher level though in many ways I guess it is.

    The only thing I would like to ask is about the idea of "lower undeveloped levels" as far as Karma goes. I find Karma itself very much a neutral. A process and a journey. I am wondering if you've found on your path that those things are "lower" or if I'm misreading you here.
    Tia
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    Wed, October 24, 2007 - 12:13 PM
    The latent response, as well as the healing is something that I've also encountered. For instance, with "emotional burnout" I will lose my voice. Pretty much guaranteed. It's an inward thing, not really depression, but a "enough" sense. With anger, insecurity, feeling dishonesty (on any level), jealousy, or the "lower" level emotions I will develop the tension of the stomach, tension headaches, anxiety etc. The reason I link it with the empathetic stuff is that it's not simply because of stress.

    Thank you Mary for pointing out the two sides of the coin that are very much familiar sounding to me as well as many others on here I'm sure!

    Astral experiences began for me since I was three. I don't consider it unusual or a higher level though in many ways I guess it is.

    The only thing I would like to ask is about the idea of "lower undeveloped levels" as far as Karma goes. I find Karma itself very much a neutral. A process and a journey. I am wondering if you've found on your path that those things are "lower" or if I'm misreading you here.
    Tia
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    Wed, October 24, 2007 - 2:58 PM
    Wow I really loved your desciption of our pisces moon. I am always pleased to fnd other peoples persepective on our emotional nature. I find myslef costantly proficising throughout the day. I will know who I will,see what they will say, the overall flow of the day. I can feel the waves as they get closer to me. I know when a friend is going to call, or when a coincidence is going to occur. I am a virgo sun pisces moon, but the pull of the moon is very strong compared to my sun. I go through sperts of dreaming when I have high energy weeks. I am almost concious in all my dreams, controling what happens. Somedays its almost too much to feel, and you just want to hug everyone. My venus being in scorpio does not help out with my emotional contentment either. Things in life tend to be a struggle for me on an emotional level. I have to keep my sprits up. Even though I have the privielge of feeling so many energies, I must keep myslef centered. It is amazing to me to walk past a persons house and feel their lifestyle. At any time if I focus I can bring myslef back to the emotion of any part of my life. I can lead myself back to that energy, recognise it, and then move on. Once again merging, and accepting all the experiences of being alive. I find that people open up to me on a deep level. It is strange to live a life in this spiritual haze, but so beautiful. I understand this human condition more and more everyday. Do we all live in this haze, this air, this thought. I love to merge with the minds of others and percieve their feelings. No one can hide a sad feeling from me, and I am never scared of an emotional problem. I open up my arms to sadness only to accept it and heal it.. The pisces moon is truely a blessing. We are not week. but strong and enduring. Ride on
    Much love
    -Amanda
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      Mon, November 19, 2007 - 12:36 AM
      WOW... I had to make a list when I was reading all of this.. COOL. It amazes me just how much of who I am is wrapped up here.
      I am the youngest in my family of six. We are all fire sun signs. I call it growing up in the house of fire. My dad is one of the most disfunctional aries imaginable. I'm an aries too. He was very violent, but in a disciplinary way. My earliest role in my family was to defuse the old man. I could do or say something to shift his radical mood swings thus thwarting someones ass beating.
      For me this moon signs manifests in a few ways. My first pinpointing of ability came one day at a dairy queen, they had a scratch off tic tac toe game where every card was a winner. I was sitting there and I just got this idea to put my finger over the gray spots. I went from one to the other and found that on some I felt heat. I could pinpoint the winning row before I started scratching. I won so many times that my friends would give me theirs to do. I grew up in Alaska and I am a fisherman, with a scorpio rising I have neptune in the first house. I am at home on the water. I can feel where the fish are. In the woods I put my arms out and my palms out and I can pick up and follow energy trails. At the end of the trail I find a bone or a feather ect.. I have this huge collection of things that I've found in this way. I feel animals alot also, In Alaska the nature vibe is so strong, its way fun to play in the woods.
      I tell people that I am habitually single. It is easier this way in that I have to have time to stay in touch with my own vibe. I feel everything. By the way thanks for the post and the tribe Mary. I think that many of us are very old souls an/or not from here. the pisces moon is an avenue to use what we maybe have developed before.
      Hannahs right on with the emotional over load concept, I can relate. Sometimes I feel things and don't know how to respond so I do nothing. I think I freak people out alot of times by the look on my face when I am reading them. Amanda said some cool stuff too. I can usually feel when I am going to meet a future girl friend. I start shaking uncontrollably and I know that they are going to show up in a couple of minutes.
      Tia is right about the substance abuse. For me I "blame" it on neptune in the first house. I just love altered states. Alcohol I find that I just can't do. Its like I like the break from feeling too much and take it too far, then I get bit in the ass by not feeling trouble coming. More so when I was younger, I am starting to get this all down. I have been a pot head at times in my life also but don't like how it effects the memory of my dreams and also even though I can get way out there with it, its like I am looking at the spirit world through glass. It is way better straight.
      How about directing energy? you guys play with that at all. It is a pretty promenent part of what I can do. I got into crystals way back when and feeling their vibrations has always been easy for me, but also sending energy through them, through my palm chakras.
      I have to admit the down sides of this though. When I get hurt emotionally, it hurts way bad. My first broken heart messed me up for about 8 months. I don't ussually admit that but I am in good company here. I don't get hurt so bad anymore, I just won't hold it in. cry baby cry
      I am glad to talk to you all about these things. I don't get to do this very often. best and highest to all
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        Thu, February 7, 2008 - 10:12 AM
        I am a Taurus sun, and Pisces moon (of course), and have only recently come to terms with some of my more psychic traits. I don't have nearly as much control or talent as some of you here, and it's entirely unconscious. My truths come out when i'm yammering on, and just spit out something that comes true not more than a few months later (usually within the day). It got to the point where I would catch myself if I have a very random thought. "Oh, watch me die by crashing into a church for irony." That sort of thing. I find that if I concentrate on it, repeat it, it never comes to pass. (Though that's an extreme example. I've blurted out things about deaths that came to pass, things people buy, big things, little things...). I also have preminatory dreams quite a bit. They are usually about entirely stupid things. Like typing a line, writing a nose, seeing a house I've never seen before. One of my more recent ones was dreaming of a movie that I ended up seeing a month later..which my then brand-new boyfriend made.

        I tend to connect to one person at a time. And I feel all their bodily aches and pains, as well as extreme emotions. It doesn't matter how far away they are. It gets especially messy when them having sex comes into play. I've found that I can only connect my empathness to water signs so far. Who knows? Maybe things will continue developing over the years.

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